
Human-First AI: Lessons from Angie Carel

In this episode of Behind the Product, host Zac Darnell and co-host Raman Ohri sit down with AI strategist Angie Carel for a refreshingly candid conversation about the human side of AI adoption. From why skipping AI literacy is a guaranteed misstep, to how “corporate recess” can spark innovation. Angie brings clarity, empathy, and a touch of urgency to a rapidly evolving space. Whether you’re a seasoned leader or just dipping your toes into the AI space, this one’s packed with insight and inspiration.
3 Key Takeaways:
- AI Literacy is Non-Negotiable: Organizations fail when they skip foundational education. Without a baseline understanding, fear and misuse take hold.
- Adoption Starts with Play: Introducing “corporate recess” gives employees a low-risk space to experiment, share, and discover meaningful use cases.
- Experience Still Matters: Great outputs from GenAI come when real-world knowledge meets strong prompting—tools don’t replace wisdom.
Timestamps:
- 00:12 – Understanding Failures in Business Strategy
- 05:35 – The Importance of AI Literacy in Adoption Strategies
- 14:00 – Navigating the Adoption of AI in Organizations
- 15:41 – The Importance of Experimentation in Corporate Culture
- 21:02 – The Role of Experience in Marketing with AI
- 33:25 – The Speed of Change in AI Adoption
- 39:45 – Innovative Approaches to Employee Efficiency
- 41:07 – Spicy Takes on AI and Productivity
Episode Guest

Angie Carel | GenAI Strategist | Marketing Director at DragonFly
Angie Carel is a recognized Generative AI consultant, educator, and community builder with over two decades of experience in marketing leadership and nearly three years at the forefront of AI adoption.
Episode Host

Zac Darnell | Host of Behind The Product & Manager at SEP
With his diverse background and expertise, Zac brings a unique perspective to discussions around innovation, leadership, and the ever-evolving tech landscape. His ability to bridge technical and business domains makes him a valuable voice in the industry.
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